mattwhite.me - Blog - Commentshttp://mattwhite.me/blog/Matt White's Blogen-GBSquarespace Site Server v5.11.81 (http://www.squarespace.com/)Matt White comments on Dojo 1.7.2 in XPagesMatt WhiteThu, 05 Apr 2012 09:44:56 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2012/4/3/dojo-172-in-xpages.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/17551176@Rob - it all depends on your use case. In this case to get the Dojo files inside the nsf working you pretty much have to do it. The downside being that any XSP... client side functionality will be missing so that will mean partial refreshes, paging in views, posting of data etc etc (ie anything that talks to the server) will not work and you will need to code it yourself.

It's why in the end for my project last week I ended up going with jQuery Mobile instead of Dojo. (See Lesson 76 on XPages101.net for more information).

Matt

]]>Rob Novak comments on Dojo 1.7.2 in XPagesRob NovakWed, 04 Apr 2012 22:04:05 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2012/4/3/dojo-172-in-xpages.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/17548962Matt,
Do you generally recommend the method you describe of disabling the shipping Dojo version? Have you found any side effects?

]]>John Turnbow comments on XPages101 Lotusphere DiscountJohn TurnbowMon, 09 Jan 2012 14:47:22 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2012/1/9/xpages101-lotusphere-discount.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16504993Good work... Would like to see mobility because that is so big....

]]>Bradley H comments on Review of 2011Bradley HMon, 02 Jan 2012 03:43:21 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/30/review-of-2011.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16419460What an exciting year you have ahead. Congrats!
Thank you for your support in 2011 and I look forward to working with you in 2012.

All the best!
Cheers,
Bradley

]]>Karl-Henry Martinsson comments on Review of 2011Karl-Henry MartinssonFri, 30 Dec 2011 19:56:51 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/30/review-of-2011.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16407388Congratulations on your upcoming marriage and child! Looking forward to see you in Orlando.

]]>Warren Elsmore comments on What does the Upgrade Pack 1 mean for me?Warren ElsmoreFri, 16 Dec 2011 09:51:28 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/15/what-does-the-upgrade-pack-1-mean-for-me.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16223751Dan,

The big issue for me is that the UP-1 installation doesn't change the version number of Notes or Domino at all. That means, as an enterprise administrator, I have no way of knowing who has - or who doesn't have - UP-1 installed. Server OR client.

MR's change the version number so we can use smart upgrade to roll it out and keep things in line. Even if I used Smart Upgrade to roll this out, in the future I'd have no way of knowing who had it and who didn't. Checking the file system is a poor alternative.

You're correct about the updatesite.zip being extracted as part of the install (I had missed that) - but only for the client. There doesn't seem to be a server equivalent.

My main concern is that there seems to be some duality here in how this sort of thing should be deployed. My understanding was that update sites were 'the future' - especially for Eclipse features. But now IBM are shipping eclipse features that are designed NOT to be installed via an update site. It seems a little disjointed and that there should be one preferred method of doing this, not two. Or if there are two, document the fact there are two ways of doing this.

Warren Elsmore

]]>Dan O'Connor comments on What does the Upgrade Pack 1 mean for me?Dan O'ConnorThu, 15 Dec 2011 16:44:54 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/15/what-does-the-upgrade-pack-1-mean-for-me.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16212144Hi Matt.

I am not sure what you mean by it is more difficult to distribute the upgrade pack in a large organization as opposed to the ext lib? The opposite was the goal.. It 'should' be easier to install the upgrade pack.

The upgrade pack installer is based on the Lotus/IBM fix pack installer platform, so administrators should be able to distribute and install the upgrade pack in the same manner as any fix pack they receive.
The first dialog that appears when installing the upgrade pack gives you the option to 'leave the installation files on the system when I finish' (or words to that effect :-) )... Choosing this option leaves the 'updatesite.zip' file on your system, in which case you can use the update site installer just as you would from OpenNTF, in which case I believe you get the best of both worlds.
I'd be interested in hearing of specific issues which make the upgrade pack more difficult to install than the Ext lib, we went to a considerable amount of effort to make this not the case.

Thanks for taking the time to look into this..

Enjoy :-)

Dan

]]>Matt White comments on What does the Upgrade Pack 1 mean for me?Matt WhiteThu, 15 Dec 2011 15:55:47 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/15/what-does-the-upgrade-pack-1-mean-for-me.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16210051@Martin - My understanding is that you can mix and match the ExtLib with the UP, but you need to test on a case by case basis. I think in reality that shops which require supported software on their servers will use the UP, everyone else will continue to use the ExtLib.

Matt

]]>Martin Meijer comments on What does the Upgrade Pack 1 mean for me?Martin MeijerThu, 15 Dec 2011 15:37:37 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/15/what-does-the-upgrade-pack-1-mean-for-me.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16209897Matt, as a Developer I like to add new functionality if this is available on OpenNTF. Can I install a new ExtLib version on top of the Upgrade Pack 1 or do I have to wait for Upgrade Pack 2 in this case?

]]>Matt White comments on What does the Upgrade Pack 1 mean for me?Matt WhiteThu, 15 Dec 2011 14:57:32 +0000http://mattwhite.me/blog/2011/12/15/what-does-the-upgrade-pack-1-mean-for-me.html#comments368815:3970370:comment/16209528@John,

I don't disagree, but from what Warren's said the management of the UP1 installation process is much harder in a large or complex environment than the ExtLib from OpenNTF, so it's going to be a decision of taking the unsupported code which can be easily managed vs the supported code which takes more effort to look after.

Matt

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